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Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas - the Rainforest podcast showcases those who are contributing to and / or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta. Rainforest Alberta is a world-class community of dreamers and doers, connected by a common goal of making Alberta fertile ground for building, developing, and growing innovative ideas into sustainable ventures. https://rainforestab.ca
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Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Al Del Degan Hosts Katerina Strelina (Local Eats) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Meet Katerina, a single mom who has had an incredible journey and overcame real hardship with hard work and tenacity to build a better life for her son. Now on an entrepreneurial journey with a much-needed software platform to connect farmers with their customers in a new way.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Al Del Degan is a software developer and tech leader in Alberta's innovation ecosystem. He is also a Web3 enthusiast and podcaster, sharing his knowledge and passion for emerging technologies with his audience. Al is the founder and CTO of New Idea Machine, a software company dedicated to helping new developers gain hands-on experience building real-world applications. With his commitment to giving back to the community, Al is always available to offer advice on technology and business. His passion for innovation and entrepreneurship is evident in everything he does, making him a respected leader in the tech industry.
Guest: Katerina Strelina is a co-founder of "Local Eats," an online platform connecting farmers and food vendors directly to local customers across Canada. With over 5 years of experience in Alberta's agriculture industry, she is passionate about supporting local businesses and local food systems. Katerina also brings over 15 years of expertise in customer service and sales spanning various B2B and B2C markets. Her background in journalism enables her to effectively communicate and build partnerships to ensure satisfaction for all parties involved. In her leisure time, she enjoys horseback riding, hiking, reading, and taking road trips. She is also a dedicated volunteer at 4:13 Therapeutic Riding Association, providing therapeutic horseback riding to the children with special needs.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"I came there to make money. I didn't come there to build a career, make friends, have fun. I new I needed money, I had no choice."
"Like a circus with one artist, you do everything."
"From fashion like red carpet sometimes with the high heels, the day after I was in my rubber boots in my military pants and I was walking through the mud."
"We only die once, we live every day"
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Al Del Degan Hosts Brent Zuber (Virtual Reality) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
I have been hanging out virtually with Brent Zuber for several months and I am always impressed with how well researched and intellectual he is. Join us for an in-depth conversation on virtual reality in business.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Al Del Degan is a software developer and tech leader in Alberta's innovation ecosystem. He is also a Web3 enthusiast and podcaster, sharing his knowledge and passion for emerging technologies with his audience. Al is the founder and CTO of New Idea Machine, a software company dedicated to helping new developers gain hands-on experience building real-world applications. With his commitment to giving back to the community, Al is always available to offer advice on technology and business. His passion for innovation and entrepreneurship is evident in everything he does, making him a respected leader in the tech industry.
Guest: Brent Zuber has had the great fortune to excel within many diverse positions, meet numerous outstanding individuals, and travel across a majority of the Earth's surface for work and pleasure. He adapts to new changes extremely well, and is a dedicated life long learner. Brent is always excited with the discovery of "WOW"!
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"It isn't about replacing the hands-on touch of a museum. Just saying before you get there, what are the exhibits you want to see."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Jennifer Morrison Hosts Jesse Bartlett (The Virtual Gurus) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Join Jen with her guest Jesse Bartlett who provides a burst of hope and energy to help us take the first steps toward a community focused on a better future.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Jennifer Morrison is InceptionU’s learner champion. She has over 11 years of experience as an educator and received her Masters of Educational Leadership from High Tech High Graduate School of Education in San Diego, CA. Jen possesses extensive experience in project-based and experiential learning and design thinking.
Jen spent many years teaching middle and high school students which provided her with a foundational love of learning and passion for exploration and personal growth. Following her natural curiosity and growth mindset, she honed her leadership skills and dove deep into project based learning during her time at High Tech High.
As the Learning Catalyst and Lead Program Designer with InceptionU, Jen provides valued leadership, guidance, meaningful connections and an engaging learning environment. She is deeply dedicated to each of the learners and their success. As Simon Sinek says in The Infinite Game, “what good is it having a belly if there's no fire in it? Wake up, drink your passion, light a match and get to work.”
Guest: Jessie Bartlett was born in Vancouver 1980. Jesse has been in Calgary since 2001 and met his wife in 2002. They now we have 2 kids 5&9 years old. Jesse the proud owner or Canelo’s ice cream and Legacy boxing club as well as Draw Energy and Report My Rent.ca.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"Don't give up. It's not over until you give up."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday Jun 06, 2023
Tuesday Jun 06, 2023
Maiden provides a burst of hope and energy to help us take the first steps toward a community focused on a better future
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Val McCarty is in the business of helping organizations visualize, communicate, and execute strategy in real time. Her studies were acquired at both University of Alberta and Grant MacEwan University, and encompassed Management, Education, and Human Services, with an aim to continue learning. Her previous experience includes the Financial Sector, Fitness Sector, and Early Childhood Education. When Val is not at work you can find her outside with her grandkids, or looking forward to the next live jam.
Guest: Maiden Manzanal-Frank is Founder and Senior Consultant of GlobalStakes Consulting, Maiden is the author of Provocateur not Philanthropists: Turning Good Intentions into Global Impact.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"The paradigm that encircles this framework makes purpose, passion, practice, and provision work together, to create impact. Without a paradigm, your purpose, passion, provision, and practice are directionless."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Brigitte Legault Hosts Katie Mclean (TuskHub Inc.) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
This is the sixth episode in a series hosted by Brigitte Legault, which features women role models in Alberta Tech. Women hold 60% of STEM degrees, however only hold 25% of ICT roles and 57% of women in mid-level tech roles are leaving their positions.
Through this series we will explore what unique challenges they are facing, what inspires many to stay, and we will highlight their innovations, initiatives, and contributions to women's equity in our sector.
In this episode we follow the journey of Katie Mclean, founder and CEO of Tuskhub Inc. Katie shares her fascinating career path and how we can all support working parents in their careers.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Brigitte Legault leads the Rainforest Alberta movement in Calgary as the Community Manager and also serves the startup community through strategy and growth consulting services. She is passionate about growing the tech sector upon a culture of trust, diversity, and collaboration and activates this work through strategic ecosystem initiatives, learning experiences, storytelling, and community engagement.
Guest: Katie McLean is the founder and CEO of Calgary based Growth Consultancy, TuskHub and the founder and Managing Director of the Angel Network, Women at the Cap Table (WATCT). Katie is a business visionary who sees possibilities in everything. She is a proven leader who not only knows how to build businesses, she knows how to build momentum too. Most comfortable leading organizations with innovative, ground-breaking and disruptive technologies, Katie has built high performing teams around North America by harnessing the power of good people and great ideas. Katie has an extensive network of enterprise relationships from her time working at holy grail brands like Google and working with founding teams of tech startups and scales ups. Her superpower is connecting the right people at the right time and working with purpose-built companies who want to attract the best customers, partners and employees. As a community catalyst Katie has raised over $1 million dollars for Cancer research in Alberta through a charity triathlon. She has served on the board of the Alberta Cancer Foundation for six years and on the advisory board for the Advisory Board member for Graduate Student Professional Development at the University of Alberta. She is a member of the Dean's Circle, Faculty of Science at the University of Calgary. On a personal note she has completed over twelve marathons and three Ironman triathlons and she is the proud mother of four beautiful children.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"Those companies aren't built for people with families, you know they really aren't, and so how do we create software companies in the future where it's balanced? It's about sustainable growth. It's about creating work environments where you can pick up your kid and you can go and work after dinner if you want but that the volume of work isn't so crazy that you can't really have a life. How can we find this balance where we get the best of people over a longer period of time instead of having higher cases of burnout and things like that. That's what we are trying to provide."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday May 23, 2023
Tuesday May 23, 2023
Join Jen as she checks in with Christa Hill and Renee Matsalla of Tacit Edge Product Leadership and all of the amazing things they have been up to over the past year. They discuss the wins, the challenges, the mistakes, and how their "WHY" of creating inclusive and accessible product education continues to have significant impact on the ecosystem and more importantly, the amazing individuals who collaborate/learn with them.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Jennifer Morrison is InceptionU’s learner champion. She has over 11 years of experience as an educator and received her Masters of Educational Leadership from High Tech High Graduate School of Education in San Diego, CA. Jen possesses extensive experience in project-based and experiential learning and design thinking.
Jen spent many years teaching middle and high school students which provided her with a foundational love of learning and passion for exploration and personal growth. Following her natural curiosity and growth mindset, she honed her leadership skills and dove deep into project based learning during her time at High Tech High.
As the Learning Catalyst and Lead Program Designer with InceptionU, Jen provides valued leadership, guidance, meaningful connections and an engaging learning environment. She is deeply dedicated to each of the learners and their success. As Simon Sinek says in The Infinite Game, “what good is it having a belly if there's no fire in it? Wake up, drink your passion, light a match and get to work.”
Guest: Renee Matsalla is a Co-founder at Tacit Edge Product Leadership where she helps people reach their potential as product leaders. Before this, she was a product leader at Benevity, where she specialized in visioning and launching Benevity’s most innovative products. Renee’s product leadership was instrumental in Benevity’s unicorn $1.1B valuation. Renee has also worked in Berlin and San Francisco where she led the launches of mobile monetization products used by Facebook, Google, and the world’s largest mobile game developers. She now coaches Product Managers to become product leaders in the growing Alberta tech ecosystem.
Guest: Christa Hill is a Co-founder of Tacit Edge Product Leadership where she uses her industry expertise to fuel our economy with empowered, innovative, and diverse product leaders that embody the entrepreneurial spirit. She also serves as Vice President of Product YYC where she is at the forefront of creating Product Management curriculum for SAIT and other educational and corporate institutions such as the New York Federal Reserve Bank. To find out more visit TacitEdge.ca.
Christa started her career in the early days of online banking and money transfer services, while also working in various compliance roles in the financial services industry. She then took on a passion project in the not-for-profit sector to revitalize a local community recreation center. Upon her return to tech, she discovered a path from Product Ownership at Getty Images to Product Management at Benevity. At Benevity, now a $1.1B unicorn tech company, her work was instrumental in scaling the platform to onboard and vet over 2 million global not-for-profits and disburse over $2 billion in funds, while elevating the grants application process in collaboration with Microsoft USA. She then led the vision of Benevity’s content API, which is designed to become the engine of Benevity's end-user experience.
Christa returned to FinTech with Morgan Stanley At Work as Vice President, Global Private Markets Product Management. Christa was instrumental in moving money around the globe through purpose-built services that facilitate liquidity events within employee stock plans for private fortune 500 companies and start-ups. Additionally, she used her extensive API experience to create the first-ever public-facing API that scales the administration of a corporation’s lifecycle from private ownership to IPO. This ground-breaking work secured Morgan Stanley’s position as the premier product for Private Markets liquidity activities. Together with her technology partners, they rose from millions to billions of dollars in activity within 12 months.
Now, Christa is most known for coaching early and established Product Managers, helping them deepen their expertise and helping them thrive in their careers. She brings empathy and humor along while tackling the grey areas of the role, with the goal of creating future product leaders for our increasingly digital world.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
Show Links:
- Tacit Edge Product Leadership
- E163 Jennifer Morrison Hosts Christa Hill and Renee Matsalla (Tacit Edge Product Leadership) on the LIBI Podcast
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Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday May 16, 2023
Tuesday May 16, 2023
This is the fifth episode in a series hosted by Brigitte Legault, which features women role models in Alberta Tech.
This series will explore how women experience the tech sector in Alberta. Women hold 60% of STEM degrees, however only hold 25% of ICT roles and 57% of women in mid-level tech roles are leaving their positions.
Through this series we will explore what unique challenges they are facing, what inspires many to stay, and we will highlight their innovations, initiatives, and contributions to women's equity in our sector.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Brigitte Legault leads the Rainforest Alberta movement in Calgary as the Community Manager and also serves the startup community through strategy and growth consulting services. She is passionate about growing the tech sector upon a culture of trust, diversity, and collaboration and activates this work through strategic ecosystem initiatives, learning experiences, storytelling, and community engagement.
Guest: Fiona Simpson is a research scientist and entrepreneur who is passionate about bringing the promise of biomaterials-assisted regenerative medicine to communities around the world. Fiona has worked in academic and industrial medical research for over 17 years in areas spanning cardiovascular disease, neuroscience, dermatology, psychiatry, and ophthalmology. When she discovered the field of regenerative medicine, she knew that she had found a scientific discipline that combined her skills in biomedical research with her passion for transformative change in healthcare.
Fiona received her Ph.D. in Biomedical Engineering from the Université de Montréal in 2022, where she specialized in regenerative medicine for the cornea. She won the 2021-2022 award for the best doctoral thesis in Biomedical Engineering. She’s an experienced manager in pilot-scale cleanroom manufacturing for biomaterials, and she directed the OPhthalmic Tissue Engineering Cleanrooms (OPTEC) at Hôpital Maisonneuve-Rosemont from 2018-2021.
Guest: Elle Edin has a history of academic work starting with a bachelor and masters degree in biology from Linkoping university. Elle went on to study polymer chemistry for a PhD at Uppsala university. Elle's postdoctoral years were at the lab of dr. May Griffith at Université de Montréal developing biomaterials for regenerative medicine applications. Elle is now working for a startup on developing wound healing applications.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"If you are a qualified investor... do not leave venture capital up to eccentric billionaires. Make that a community project, so that you see the companies that you want to exist in your area."
"We ran too fast to fall over."
"You can make whatever STEM job you want if you persue it with enough drive and enough passion."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday May 09, 2023
Brigitte Legault Hosts Ange Paye (Voto) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday May 09, 2023
Tuesday May 09, 2023
This is the fourth episode in a series hosted by Brigitte Legault, which features women role models in Alberta Tech.
This series will explore how women experience the tech sector in Alberta. Women hold 60% of STEM degrees, however only hold 25% of ICT roles and 57% of women in mid-level tech roles are leaving their positions.
Through this series we will explore what unique challenges they are facing, what inspires many to stay, and we will highlight their innovations, initiatives, and contributions to women's equity in our sector.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Brigitte Legault leads the Rainforest Alberta movement in Calgary as the Community Manager and also serves the startup community through strategy and growth consulting services. She is passionate about growing the tech sector upon a culture of trust, diversity, and collaboration and activates this work through strategic ecosystem initiatives, learning experiences, storytelling, and community engagement.
Guest: Ange Paye is a tech entrepreneur and the co-founder of VOTO, a customer engagement platform that helps businesses gather customer feedback and insights from consumers by giving back to their favourite charities. With a business degree from the University of Calgary, with almost 5 years of experience as a Product Manager in enterprise software development. Last year Ange transitioned into entrepreneurship and brings her leadership, business strategy, and product development into tech innovations that serve to give back.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"We (women) really humanize technology. We make it more like people. There is a different lens that we bring to the table that’s missing."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday May 02, 2023
Tuesday May 02, 2023
Born into the foster care system and growing up a troubled teenager, Brown Eagle spent 12 years in prison and used that time learning and growing. Afterwards, with the help of a key mentor Brown Eagle utilized his life experiences to help others. After losing his job during the lockdowns, Brown Eagle self-taught himself blockchain and programming. Now he has his own company, Decolonized Capital, that is creating a First Nation's Digital Currency and social network to provide identity and true data sovereignty to indigenous people in Canada, and all over the world.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Al Del Degan is a software developer and tech leader in Alberta's innovation ecosystem. He is also a Web3 enthusiast and podcaster, sharing his knowledge and passion for emerging technologies with his audience. Al is the founder and CTO of New Idea Machine, a software company dedicated to helping new developers gain hands-on experience building real-world applications. With his commitment to giving back to the community, Al is always available to offer advice on technology and business. His passion for innovation and entrepreneurship is evident in everything he does, making him a respected leader in the tech industry.
Guest: Brown Eagle Belanger As a visionary leader and thought leader in the blockchain and AI industries, Brown Eagle is on a mission to improve the lives of Indigenous people in Canada. With his personal experiences and unique perspective, he founded Decolonized Capital to drive meaningful change and empower Indigenous communities. Brown Eagle's expertise and passion have earned him a seat on the Canadian blockchain consortium committee, where he continues to inspire others and impact the world.
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"Being predominantly non-indigenous in this [tech] space, it can be very intimidating."
"We are an FNDC, a First Nations Digital Currency backed by a real world asset."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Brigitte Legault Hosts Mary Morrison (Wilma) on the LIBI Podcast
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
This is the third episode in a series hosted by Brigitte Legault, which features women role models in Alberta Tech.
This series will explore how women experience the tech sector in Alberta. Women hold 60% of STEM degrees, however only hold 25% of ICT roles and 57% of women in mid-level tech roles are leaving their positions.
Through this series we will explore what unique challenges they are facing, what inspires many to stay, and we will highlight their innovations, initiatives, and contributions to women's equity in our sector.
Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by Rainforest Alberta. The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.
Host: Brigitte Legault leads the Rainforest Alberta movement in Calgary as the Community Manager and also serves the startup community through strategy and growth consulting services. She is passionate about growing the tech sector upon a culture of trust, diversity, and collaboration and activates this work through strategic ecosystem initiatives, learning experiences, storytelling, and community engagement.
Guest: Mary Morrison considers herself fortunate to have raised a family in YYC while pursuing her passion for solving real-world problems in executive roles throughout her corporate and founder life. One of her significant commitments is Wilma, a project that Mary shares with Terri Phipps, co-founder, and CEO. Mary believes that ensuring the safety of women and gender-diverse people is crucial and has a significant impact on everyone. She finds it disheartening to learn that many women who drive in the gig economy carry weapons and often do not report assaults. Additionally, sexual violence among ride-hail riders is one of the most underreported criminal activities in cities, and this fact cannot be ignored. Wilma was created to eliminate the guesswork and provide hassle-free travel from point A to B. The project is an inspiration for Mary and Terri, and they are motivated by the impact they will have. They believe that their innovative approach will lead people to question, "What did women do before Wilma?"
Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts and the iTunes store for Apple Podcasts We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.
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Show Quotes:
"When you are not feeling safe, you are not confident, and when you are not confident, you are not empowered and when you are not empowered all of a sudden you have diminished a lot about yourself. We've been in a meetings where people say "is this really a problem? To 30 million people it's been a problem and those people have families and they go to work and they live in communities so yes, it's a problem and you are probably very fortunate if it hasn't impacted you yet"
"Wilma is attracting people who say, this is a problem and I want to be part of the community that is solving it."
On co-founder dynamics, Mary says "You have to test for understanding and you have to test for outcomes."
Credits...
This Episode Sponsored By: New Idea Machine
Episode Music: Tony Del Degan
Creator & Producer: Al Del Degan